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Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Oscar_Contreras on Apr 18, 2001 12:22 AM
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Saboteur on Apr 18, 2001 12:29 AM
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Anyway... difficult to understand, but it seems that Oscar has a point.
And that point deserves to be considered...
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By MarvMann on Apr 19, 2001 01:20 PM
Every place is different. 3DArtists has great forums and first rate art.  3dmaxfactor has a lively Forum of it's own and a distinctive flavor, with a committment to aspiring artists.
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Saboteur on Apr 25, 2001 08:52 AM
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Does the owner of this site has anything to say about this?

It's the minimum of courtesy I think.
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By gman on May 02, 2001 12:26 AM
I recently posted some work up at www.3dmaxfactor.com , and after visiting there I can tell theres a 'Buzz' surrounding it, it's great, and as for this Raphael guy, I'd be a bit mused too if I got ignored all the time, come on guys, lets work together :)
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Oscar_Contreras on May 04, 2001 12:09 AM
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Activemind2000 on May 04, 2001 05:08 AM
Oscar touched a very sensible point here, and i agree with him; I also sent some of my best works to Raphael and i never got any reply from him.If a mail has been read, i think a reply with just these words: not good enough - would have been satisfactory, as i tried to see what his oppinion would be. I like the gallery that is hosted here, i think it is very very good, maybe the best i have seen, and i have tried to see if i am good enough to be a part of it. Even more, reading Oscar's post,i only say that my country has ABSOLUTELY no representant here.I think my works are not bad, if i consider the feedback i received from many of the guys here. So , i couldn't find a reason why Raphael never answered me and never told me why the images i sent him were never included in the gallery.

Let's wait some more, who knows?
In the meantime i will improve my work :)

All the best
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By on May 04, 2001 10:23 AM
I don't know... all this "XCLUSIVE" stuff makes me sick :-(. I think that every one MUST have the chance to post works... that's the point that 3dmaxfactor covers. Let me tell you that this page looks like a "VIP" room at a discotheque. I'm sorry if any of this comments makes more than "SOMEONE" to feel angry... but it's the truth and i must SAY IT.
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By eadesign on May 04, 2001 01:34 PM
I also agree, Ive been trying seens he started his list, Ive submited recently to be apart of the gallery, I dont belive he will ever respond,
just as he never reponds to email.

It all started out great, he let anyone with
talent join and be listed, then he got exclusive just to the artist that has come the longest way.
I dont see them as the best, they are talented yes, and they has the most experiance and struggle as we have,had & are !
There is only time and experiance that differ all of us. So I dont see the point in destroying a good outlet as this gallery and refusing talented artists.

Another point I dont think I ever seen anything that he has done ? I dont recall even to know
what he does for a living or his past !?!
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By gman on May 04, 2001 02:51 PM
It's a shame,
....but I really don't think that this site will at all change it's principles for any of us.  Maybe we should see it as a goal to get our work up here.  I don't like the ignorance thing though, and chances are, Oscar, that he will never be bothered to read this thread either.

-Be Well all
-Gav

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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Oscar_Contreras on May 04, 2001 03:02 PM
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By ambient-whisper on May 04, 2001 04:30 PM
do you guys even know teh owner of this site?.no.
do you know what he does for a living..no.
do you know if hes got a family...or other things to attend to? no
so why are you judging him? ego-trip?.. umm..certainly not.some people had to wait a few months for their work to be posted because the ammount of work that raph gets submitted is huge. so going through all the works!...and selecting the few best ones is a time consuming task. and with the things that raph has going he just doesnt have time for everything like he used to when he started this site.

please put some thought into your comments before making any final judgements.
he made this site for you guys didnt he?. it also costs money to keep it up...and with the huge bandwidth that this sites gallery goes through the costs arent just a few mere dollars.

maybe the reason why he hasnt posted your work is because it hasnt reached that kind of quality that the others have...so it should be a goal that you should set for yourself. and post on this forum until you get it perfect. if he sees an image that strikes him he will definitely post it!. just keep at it.

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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By gman on May 04, 2001 04:47 PM
We do not know the owner of this site, and I'm sure we all respect the site that is was made for 3D artists, but it's not just his particular issue, It seems that if a lesser member gives crit to a pro, the he/she is stepping on eggshells for the next week.  This can only be seen as an inflated-Ego.  Learn to take the critisizm, then you can dish it out is what I say, not:
'if I'm a better modeller etc. than you then you cannot crit my work.'
  Please just understand that we live and breathe art, and it's this passion which leads to discussions such as this.
Love and apreciation,
-Gav

P.S. I noticed you posted that reply, was Mr Benedet busy sifting through artwork, whilst simultaniously hand feeding his umpteen kids?
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By ambient-whisper on May 04, 2001 05:09 PM


P.S. I noticed you posted that reply, was Mr Benedet busy sifting through artwork, whilst simultaniously hand feeding his umpteen kids?


not sure if your being sarcastic or not but i dont keep in contact with mr benedet. he just asked me to be a moderator for a few forums because he has tight schedules..thats it.

he didnt ask me to defend him..and im not. all im saying is dont make judgements until you have hard facts.

as for experienced people stepping over newbies, i havent seen that around here yet. but if you point me to a particular thread i will report that behaviour to mr benedet so he can deal with it. also..if a person is being a jerk..then just ignore him...and he'll go away.
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Pavster316 on May 04, 2001 06:08 PM
well said Ambient...

and please people, let's stop all these pointless debates... if Rafael notices this thread, good... if he doesn't, well we have no right to flame him for that!  How can you flame a person who you have never seen or heard, you don't even know if he exists.. I could be secretly running this website from my house, hehehe... and I am ignoring these posts on purpose, just to get you people pissed off... c'mon... do you really think, he is ignoring you purposely.  I am sure the man has some kind of an excuse for it, and until we know all the facts for sure.. we can't just bash poor Raph on his own forums.

Peace!
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Oscar_Contreras on May 04, 2001 06:24 PM
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Oscar_Contreras on May 04, 2001 06:36 PM
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By ambient-whisper on May 04, 2001 08:42 PM
why would i erase this thread?. its not harmful or anything.!?. believe me..im not an ass.:)

also. why do you need mr benedet to tell you what you did right or wrong? wouldnt it be more useful to use this forum for what its here for?. i mean..this is the place to get crits...and your using it to complain... so maybe he hasnt replied to you because its in the gallery section...and he lets the gallery section go without his supervision ?. why dont you post your work and get some good crits here?. once people have nothing to crit...and your images shine...thats when you know that you got something worthwhile

also..i dont remember saying anywhere that your site is crap....

if you want his attention then why not post this in the suggestion forum?.
raph checks that place more often than this im sure..as most of his replies are there :)
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By ambient-whisper on May 04, 2001 09:19 PM
by the way..reason why i waited till now to reply is because i dont check the post 3d art forum often.
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Alom on May 04, 2001 10:20 PM
Ok. guys!

I don't think Mr. Raph ignore any email sent to him! Because so many times I send him some of my Art work and he replied me.

The best thing is to wait till Raph be here.. who knows may be he is very busy here and there... as Mr. ambient-whisper & Pavel A. Pranevsky, let's wait until Raph come and I am sure he will anwser all questions posted here!!!  8)


* we are here to share and learn as mr. Oscar said.. Okay
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By Oscar_Contreras on May 04, 2001 11:48 PM
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By kerosene on May 05, 2001 12:29 AM
"I feel kinda mad when I recieve buckets with water for just saying what I think"

What is this oscar? Did someone blame you in unjust way? how?

As you are entitled to your opinion so is everyone else. I can't see where there has been impropriate (sp?) answers to you?

I myself see your attitude a bit weird. I think te value of this kind of communities is in the existence itself. Not so that there should be some superhero answering to all our posts but that people get together and have the conversations amongst themselves.

You are making small things big now. You are not risking your existence or anything neither has raphael in an unfair way ignored you on this forum. HE HAS NOT BEEN HERE. Have you seen him answering anything else here? no. So he hasn't seen the thread.

And then to he choosing the art to be on the galleries. Thats how it goes he is the jury. I think that is clear. The desicions weather you get into the galleries is his subjective decisions. Maybe your work wasn't that good. So what. Concentrate on getting better then. There are nowadays so many 3D guys - many of them great - that number of new high quality pieces is huge.

At least I am happy that these galleries have only very high end stuff. There are other forums with lower limits.

Do not feel insulted when no one has.

heikki
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By eadesign on May 05, 2001 01:49 AM
But if we turn the table, there are thousands of
persons who would gladly help him to maintain
this site, which can include all artists.
This site can be so much more !
He could even get several sponsorships and
deals with a wide range of the 3D community,
pulishers and developers.
He can even get real good deals starting
to sell products with artists imagery on,
all from t-shirts to a coffie cups.

The financial part can be solved, so much
that he even can live on it !

So, we shall see what he will do with it !

Another thing, nothing stops us for
joining forces to make a sister-site
to raph, which includes all artists around
the world. See oscars, its a good start.
Its needed, so lets get going !
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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By on May 05, 2001 09:32 PM
Well... all of this is not an excuse to don't reply an e-mail... why? 'cause of this:

1.) i'm webmaster, forum master and administrator of the 3dmaxfactor page...
2.) i work in an office 8 hours per day
3.) i also go to university (4 hours/day)
4.) i HAVE a family to take care off.. (i'm a dad)

EVEN with all this load of work... i REPLY ALL e-mails from our users... and NEVER in more than 12 hours.... no one can say nothing about this... the works that people are sending me are posted in a TOP record... i never let pass more than 1 day for this... so as you can see... ALL that you had said is NOT an excuse for a SIMPLE reply to an e-mail.. i KNOW that this Ralph guy is not replying 'cause he thinks that oscar's work SUX..! 'cause he is not a pro... YET, and believe me... KEEP doing the things this way and this site is gonna be out of people REAL SOON..!

3dmaxfactor COSTS money ALSO..!! is not for free... and i had spent MONTHS setting the whole stuff to keep it up and running most of the time... our bandwith is not optimal... but i'm wainting to have some bucks to pump it up... (consider that we are starting).. and we are growing FAST.!!! very fast...!

So PLEASE..!!! stop defending this guy... if he has something to say... let him give the fight, you are just using excuses with NO WEIGHT... all you had said.. is NOTHING but (Excuse me about this....) STUPID excuses...!

That's all.!

do you guys even know teh owner of this site?.no.
do you know what he does for a living..no.
do you know if hes got a family...or other things to attend to? no
so why are you judging him? ego-trip?.. umm..certainly not.some people had to wait a few months for their work to be posted because the ammount of work that raph gets submitted is huge. so going through all the works!...and selecting the few best ones is a time consuming task. and with the things that raph has going he just doesnt have time for everything like he used to when he started this site.

please put some thought into your comments before making any final judgements.
he made this site for you guys didnt he?. it also costs money to keep it up...and with the huge bandwidth that this sites gallery goes through the costs arent just a few mere dollars.

maybe the reason why he hasnt posted your work is because it hasnt reached that kind of quality that the others have...so it should be a goal that you should set for yourself. and post on this forum until you get it perfect. if he sees an image that strikes him he will definitely post it!. just keep at it.

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Re: Just for Raphael Benedet 
By ambient-whisper on May 05, 2001 09:47 PM
i really dislike these types of arguments.

im still staying with my opinion.
see...what if benedet is away.?...moving..from one place to another?. see thing is..you NEVER know...what if his computer broke down?.
these files are not on his computer anyway...and if he doesnt have access to a computer...

see..there could be a million excuses...

also..how long have you ran maxfactor?. has it been around for over 5 years?. im guessing that it hasnt.

:) and then what if hes in the hospital?.
or what if hes in jail?...
hell what if hes dead!.

so what im saying is dont get angry..or judgemental without knowing the facts. im not going to change opinions on this even if you had all those things to attend to and was superman at the same time.

your 2 completely different people.
just because you might be able to finish a marathon doesnt mean that everyone else can.
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